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I have been a resident of Brooks for 20+ years.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eOver the past 7 years, I became a community leader, an advocate for the residents of Brooks Homes, Roosevelt Square Reseats, and Loomis Courts residents. Being a community leader is a passion, when you can fight for and protect your residents to ensure that they have a decent and safe environment to live in. It give you hopes and dreams. My home is like a sanctuary. When you walk through the door, the sweet aroma hits you with peace and tranquility. Before you know it, I'm cozied away on my sofa while enjoying a cup of tea and watching my favorite shows. I've been gifted to be a community leader and role model for the residents of the community. My dream is to have a healthy and prosperous business, and to one day move into my dream home.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eFor pronouns, I also use \"Miss Blugie\".\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Interview materials available"]},"value":{"en":["Audio—.wav","Transcript—polished PDF","Transcript—in Aviary time-sync","Finding aid—polished PDF","Index (in Aviary time-sync)","Curated in podcast"]}},{"label":{"en":["Oral Historians"]},"value":{"en":["Shirley Alfaro (Interviewer)","jellystone robinson (Post-Production by)","Shakira Johnson (Post-Production by)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Interview Date"]},"value":{"en":["2017-09-25 (Recorded)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Method of Interview"]},"value":{"en":["in-person"]}},{"label":{"en":["Recording Location(s)"]},"value":{"en":["Chicago, IL (Both)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eEach oral history interview is considered to be co-created, ‘joint work’ among the oral historian, narrator, and, in this case, the Museum. 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Age 47. Today's date is 9/25/2017, Chicago, Illinois.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=0.0,12.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: My name is Shirley Alfaro. I am 40 years old. Today's date is September 25, 2017. And we are in Chicago, Illinois. Thank you so much Mary for taking this time to chat with me. \n\n(phone rings)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=12.0,25.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Okay, now we're good. Now we're cooking. Alrighty, so why don't you tell me a little bit about how you- when you came to ABLA and how was it that you came to ABLA?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=25.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Well, actually, I was born and raised in ABLA. I was born in 1970 - April of 1970 to Elizabeth Baggett. My grandmother pretty much raised me from a little girl on up till now. We lived in the Jane Addams right off of Roosvelt and Racine and we've been living there for a very long time. So I actually came here in 1970. My grandmother came here back in 19 - the 60s and she basically raised all her kids here and we lived up here on Roosevelt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=37.0,86.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: And where did your mother - your grandmother, what is your grandmother's name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=86.0,89.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Elizabeth Baggett - Mary Elizabeth Baggett.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=89.0,91.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Oh, so you have the same name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=91.0,93.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: So I have the same name as my grandmother, Mary Baggett. My mother has her middle name and I have her first name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=93.0,101.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: And where did your grandmother come from? You said she came in the sixties?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=101.0,104.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: She came from Mississippi","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=104.0,108.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Mississippi. OK. And did she come alone? Or did she come with your grandfather or -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=108.0,112.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: She came with her kids and her husband, Casey Baggett.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=112.0,118.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Got it. So tell me what it was like when you were growing up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=118.0,122.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Um, pretty much it was a lot of fun growing up being in the Jane Addams. Being able to go to the Boys and Girls Club and do different things that we like to do, we would go back there and we would swim, we would play arts and crafts, we would play - you had basketball, you had a lot of different programs going on throughout the Boys and Girls Club. And if we didn't participate in the Boys and Girls Club, we also had Fosco Park, which was a very tiny center, but it was a very fun place to go and it had so many different things going on inside of it, it was just amazing. You had ping pong table, you had the basketball, you had the game room, you just had a lot of different things where everybody just came together and was able to have a lot of enjoyment out of the community that they lived in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=122.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: And so tell me about what the community was like, like what were your neighbors like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=191.0,196.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: The neighbors were very friendly. They were nice people we all kind of get along as a whole. You had one resident that would make these cakes and they were called tea cakes. And she would make me a big bag of them and I will always go up there - she stayed on the second floor, my grandmother state 1208 And I think her doe number was 1206 - and we will always go up there and get us a bag of tea cakes and we will eat them and I sit down with my grandmother and I eat and drink coffee with my grandmother. So she pretty much raised all of us on coffee. (SA Laughs) Including my babies, coffee, everybody loves coffee. My grandmother always gave us a sip of coffee on a teaspoon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=196.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: It's very latino of you. Latino’s love to drink -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=248.0,250.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: But the neighborhood was very friendly. And you know, it was a community setting. Everyone got along.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=250.0,257.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: So tell me about what that was like when you say about the community setting. Tell me a little bit more, talk to me a little bit more about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=257.0,263.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Well, a community setting we was like more so family. You know you had my grandmother stayed across the street at 1228. My mother's stayed 1218, which was in the same courtyard. You had my uncle who stayed into 1206 on the third floor. You had my other uncle who stayed around the corner, right off Racine and Roosevelt, but all in the same complex. So it was like a family setting. So it was like everybody pretty much got along as if we were all family. You can go to someone else’’s house and bar a little sugar, or they will come to you and get a little something. And, you know, it was just you were able to communicate with everyone. And when we had like cookouts people you feed everybody in those cookouts It wasn’t no Oh, it's just our family cookout, everybody ate. And when we went Halloween hunting, it was like, you would go through the whole entire community. It wasn't no, you had to stay in your area and trick or treat. You can go on Taylor Street - and I remember, we used to go on Taylor Street, and we would go door to door and everybody would give out candy. If they didn't get out candy, they gave out some money, you got something on Taylor Street, it was just a beautiful place to just go and everybody seemed so welcome. You know, like family, you know, it's like you can go and you didn't have no problems. There was no fighting against these different, you know, races or whatever, however you want to put it - like nationalities, like I'm African American, you got italians, you got whites, you got Hispanics, you didn't have all that separation, everybody was just pretty much a whole.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=263.0,381.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: And when do you think things started to change?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=381.0,384.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: When they started tearing down a lot of the public housing units. And when they started tearing down, and they started dispersing everybody out with Section 8 vouchers, that's when a lot of things began to change.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=384.0,399.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: and how so?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=399.0,403.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: they started building different units and when they started building these different units, these different units was never supposed to look different. Everything was supposed to look the same. Whereas you couldn't tell whether we were public housing, or we were market rate or affordable housing. So in the process after they built the first phase of Roosevelt Square, you can literally tell the difference between a market rate, affordable and public housing. When you go inside of a public housing unit in Roosevelt Square, their cabinets were green! And we like “green countertops?” Then you go in affordable, you got stainless steel, wood floors, you know, marble countertop, and then the same way with market rate. Market rate had balconies, where they can go on they balcony and they can grill and do different things. But us? We couldn't have grills. We had to go to the park in order to have to be able to barbecue. But we felt like “how are we different from them just because they pay more rent than we do?” We should be able to grill on our back way as well. So of course, you know nobody in public housing has ever gone to listen to someone tell him I can't- You can't grill on your back way, When you get somebody else in here, grilling on their back way. And we all supposed to be looking no different. But here it is everybody's looking different. You can walk up to a unit in Roosevelt square and you'll know that it's a public housing because of the doorway, the way it's made.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=403.0,527.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: How is the doorway made?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=527.0,529.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: It's like you have a gate, but our gates don't lock, you can just walk straight into the gate, you could just push it open. But when you got the affordables or the market rates all they gates, they're locked. You can't walk in you got to ring the doorbell and see what our doorbells you can just walk in the gate and you press the button and ringing the doorbell. But with theirs you have to ring the doorbell on the outside of the gate in order to get in so that they will know who you are. So let;s say you get in, but the resident can't see you because you're standing under something where like they can't see who's ringing their doorbell. So you pretty much can tell the difference. You know, you got these signs on a building where it says no parking this that and the other, private property, stuff like that. You know, it's like little signs on a building that shows the difference between public housing and market rate. Market rate don't have those signs. So that's how you could tell the difference between them and then once you go inside, it's a big difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=529.0,601.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: So you had mentioned that things started to change. Once the new buildings started to come down,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=601.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: When they started to tear down all the public housing units on Taylor Street Roosevelt, things just started changing after that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=608.0,618.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: So what are some of the changes? Like, what did you see that really changed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=618.0,626.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: How people were being treated, when they started rebuilding the units. People were getting put out just for playing music too loud. Or, you know, just, maybe being a month behind on they rent, they're being evicted. Or maybe they kid might have had a problem, got in trouble. And residents, you know, were being evicted because of minor problems, or you grilled on your back and you didn't follow protocols and guidelines of management, you getting evicted, different things like that. Just constantly being picked on by management of small things that could be just easily talked about but instead of being talked about, it's like, oh, here's an eviction notice. You know, and it's just a lot of different things that's been taking place throughout public housing that shows the difference between us and the market rate people. You know, like Taylor Street, for instance, we go on Taylor Street and we spend our money back there but when we get ready to park our cars on Taylor Street, now all of a sudden it’s all about residential. So we're getting tickets, because they want to turn everything into a residential area, when it was never a residential area, and I just feel like how can you turn something into a residential area to make the market rate people feel comfortable? Versus the public housing people? They're still living there, too. So how would you make it something - How could you make it residential When they're living there? How are they going to be able to park their cars? So it's like they're forgetting that people in public housing have cars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=626.0,757.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: And who are - you had mentioned, you said something really interesting, that you said, making the market rate people feel comfortable? And what what do you feel, in your opinion, what is it that they're feeling? Why do they need to be made to feel comfortable? Like, what is it that? Why is their level of comfort? What is it that they need to feel comforted for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=757.0,778.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: I mean, I just don't feel like it should be any difference between public housing and market rate. We all pay to pay rent, we all pay taxes. I mean, when they walk out their door, they should feel comfortable. And when we walk out our door, we should feel comfortable. And we walk in our home, we shouldn't feel like we still living in public housing. Even though we know we still public housing, we should want to feel comfortable, where we walk into, I shouldn't have to take my whole house and turn it into a condo look myself, when it should already feel like a condo look. If we're gonna put out all this money, let's make everybody feel comfortable, not just the market rate, not the affordable, but everybody. I mean, we're not none of us are different. You know, I mean, you spending tons of dollars to make market rate units feel better than public housing units. So when we walk in, and we want to see a public housing unit, or no - a market rate unit, and we walk in and we looking like - wow. So then I say well, let's see a public housing unit. And you go into public housing unit it's just like, you got floors, regular floors that we've always had, which is the tile floors, you've got cabinets that's green that we've never had before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=778.0,877.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: What color green is it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=877.0,879.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Like a- like a hunter green, like green cabinets. You got green countertops. It's like - that green right there. (Points to a green on location.) That that you know, and you just like okay, but they said nothing was supposed to be different, but they are different. So this is why when you hear people have meetings saying that we want everything to look the same. This is their argument. We want everything to be the same. We don't want nothing looking different, where people can come in and it can tell the difference between public housing and non public housing residents. And it was supposed to be that way and it wasn't brought back that way. It was brought back different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=879.0,933.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: What was the apartment when you first moved in, or the first time that you can remember your apartment in ABLA, what color were the walls?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=933.0,941.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: The walls were actually like white. White walls. That's the only thing they paint them. White. Everything is white. You had - you had like (oh, well, how would I put it?) a medicine cabinet in the bathroom. You had the sink. Just a regular sink, nothing fancy. I don't know if we had cabinets underneath our sink. No, we just had a bowl, just a bowl, no cabinets connected to the bowl. And you had the toilet. The kitchen was pretty much… what kinda cabinets did we have?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=941.0,995.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Thats ok.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=995.0,997.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Metal cabinets I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=997.0,997.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Oh really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=997.0,998.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: It wasn't wood. They were like the metal that some metal like that. Like it can be in? Yeah. It wasn't wood cabinets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=998.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Have you been able to update? Like, are you able to update your apartment? Like you used to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1009.0,1017.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: In Brooks, yes, but in Roosevelt Square, its a difference. You can't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1017.0,1023.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Why is that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1023.0,1024.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: I don't know. They fine you if you change anything in your unit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1024.0,1030.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: So in in Roosevelt, if you wanted to paint the walls,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1030.0,1035.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: You can't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1035.0,1037.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: If you wanted to hang pictures,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1037.0,1040.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: You can't. You have to put it back - well I wouldn't say that they can't hang pictures, they can put the pictures up, but they have to put the apartment back the way they got it when they moved out - moved in. It has to go back the same. And that's the same way we're Brooks. You know, but we can fix up our unit to how we feel. You know, so it's like, because I have fixed my unit up where I put my own floors down, I put my wood floors down. I stained my own cabinets to a real pretty change cheerio color, which matches the floors. I put my own appliances in, washers, dryers, stove ,refrigerator, I put my own screen doors up. I just pretty much made myself feel like I own my own townhouse. Basically, upstairs, downstairs front door, back door, everything is done to my liking. I build my own patio on the back, because we got just that much space. Whereas I got tired of my grill being in mud. So when it rains, it just sinks into the mud. So I took initiative and built me a patio. So I laid bricks, concrete, lay bricks, and built like a patio and extended it out and just decorated it around with mulch and outside bricks around it. Real nice, you know, whereas I could put me a patio set out there and sit my grill on it without it sinking into the mud.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1040.0,1144.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: That’s great","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1144.0,1145.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: So it's a lot of things. You know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1145.0,1148.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Tell me a little bit about how you got involved with the LAC?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1148.0,1153.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Well, I - honestly, I got involved with the LAC because I saw that the community was being treated unfairly. And when I say that its because you know, you had nobody really out here fighting for the community, the way the community should be fought for. No one was going to the meetings, no one would come out and speak out about what was going on ABLA, the abuse and neglect towards the units, how they looking, you know, these units were done 20 years ago. And 20 years today needs to be rehabbed and fixed up all over again. So it was just like no one was stepping up to the plate. And then you always would hear, Oh, you got somebody speaking about they, they speak for ABLA, they speak for ABLA. And I would always be like, well, who is this person y’all constantly - so I started going to all alone neighborhood meetings, they will have an outside of the community, which was at Smith School, and I will go in and I just sit back and I'm listening, you know, just taking notes and you know, listening to people say they speak for ABLA, until one day, I just stood up and was like, no, you don't speak for ABLA, ABLA speaks for themselves. ABLA has their own leadership, and you're not their leadership. So that's what made me take on the role of wanting to become president of ABLA and start stepping up to the plate and doing some about the things that were going on throughout our development. We had a lot of people coming through here, like a lot of events taking place, no one including ABLA in the events, not given out jobs, you know, just having events and nothing was given back. So it was like you had Chicago Fire at the same time they were going through here filming a lot of movies, but nobody's giving back to the community. No jobs, no nothing. So it was like, I mean, nobody's saying nothing. And so it's like, Okay, I gotta step up to the plate, something got to be done, some changes need to be made. And that's when I started going out, going to different meetings, going to CHA, just voicing my concern about what was going on throughout ABLA. And after that, I took on the seat and became president, which, you know, I thought like, I'm not gonna be - they're not gonna vote me in, but I wind up getting voted in, you know, and here I am today, taking on a job that's basically for the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1153.0,1331.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: And what year did you begin your efforts?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1331.0,1335.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: I started in 2015. And then in 2016, I ran and I became president. And I've been the president now for a year. It should be a year coming in October. That's when I got assigned in the seat. October 12th, If I'm not mistaken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1335.0,1357.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Oh, that is coming up on your anniversary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1357.0,1360.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1360.0,1361.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: What changes have happened or how have you seen the community changed from before you stepped into office -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1361.0,1370.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: A lot of work been taking place throughout ABLA community. I've gotten work getting done in Loomis? Court as far as wise the mold situation that we had going on over there. They are now installing air vents in the bathroom so that they can have a breather. I also worked on helping Loomis Court receive a laundry room, which is coming soon. You know, just pretty much getting a lot of work done at ABLA that wasn't taking place: roofing jobs, washing machines and dryers, stoves, refrigerators, we ‘bout to get new playgrounds and we also are about to get new screen doors and stuff like that. So, it's just a lot of things that wasn't being done is getting done now. You know, we had our fun day, which was a beautiful fun day. We've never had a carnival at our fun days. So I had like a carnival come out. You know, themed setting, was really nice. Everybody enjoyed it. Been getting residents to come out to meetings and you know, just show up, speak their minds, you know, you got a problem, tell us what your problem is. If I can be of assist, I will be helpful. So being in this seat, I have been helpful to a lot of our residents in getting things done and I'm pretty much enjoying what I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1370.0,1461.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: That's great. And sounds like you're doing really wonderful things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1461.0,1464.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1464.0,1465.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Can I ask what - I just totally lost my train of thought. - but why don't we talk a little bit about oh, I have it I have it now. What led you to become so active like what motivates you? I know that you saw a need but like, what in you what you know what I mean? Like how did that come from? Where did that come from that desire to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1465.0,1487.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: just seeing our kids out here on the streets with nothing to do kind of motivated me to want to step up to the plate to see them have a better life. You know, I mean, people sit around and they don't allow our kids to interact in programs that take place out here. Heartland not getting out being more active like they should with the community, that kind of really made me step up to the plate because I looked at them like, you know, you all have all the resource to help get these youth off the street to be able to send them out job hunting, to put them in a program to show them that they can learn different trades to be able to go out to get the job that they need - skill settings and different stuff like that. And it just pushed me because all I would come into here and see was flyers sitting on a desk. and I'm like “all these flyers on a desk, but they're not reaching out to the community.” How would the community know what you have going on If nothing is reaching out to them? So it kind of had made me feel like people only cared about getting a number and if they got a numbers, quote, they were okay. It's not like they really cared about the peoples themselves coming in to get the job done is just they really cared about getting a signature. So, it kind of stopped me from signing their paperwork because all you cared about was you got my signature and once you got my signature, it went downtown to CHA, showing that you got your number quote, you met your record, you know, and I just felt like nothing was getting done, it was time to make a change and stay on top of them, stay on top of CHA stay on top of management, and everybody that's supposed to deal with this community overall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1487.0,1629.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Yeah. That's great. Tell me a little bit about your experience growing up in ABLA and how you interface - I'm talking, I'm thinking specifically about the animal sculptures that we're bringing back. And I kind of want to have some, some stories of reflections or fond memories that you may have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1629.0,1645.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Well, I mean, you know, I lived on Taylor Street, I stayed 928, South Lidel(?). I was like, just like right around the corner from the animal court. So I could just walk out my door, make a left, then make another left (laughter), and go straight into the animal court. And we will get out there just stand around the animals. If we weren't standing around the animals, we would climb on top of the animals and just sit up there and talk stuff all day long. You know, or just run around and play. We had the monkey bars, you know, where we could just climb up, swing on ‘em. It was just a lot of fun to even just go into the animal court and just sit around and talk stuff. Not only would we talk stuff, we would play baseball. You know, we get we call it softball, basically. And we would get a team and everybody a start playing softball and after that it grew into having a softball team and we were called The Roosevelt Kitty Cats. And then you had The Roosevelt Bulldogs, which was my uncles. So it was really, really, really fun. Just going back there sitting around watching people just mix and mingle barbecue and hang around the animals. So they are, they really mean a lot to us to just see them come back, you know, brings back the memories of how the animal court really was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1645.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Do you feel like now in the community, young people have a place like how you had the animal court where they can hang and talk and play ball?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1740.0,1749.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Well, right now, you know, not really, because we don't have that animal court setting. So with our kids, now they make their own fun. You know, they'll put two basketball rims together and they’ll just shoot basketball all day. You know, or hang around in the playground and the kids’ll play on the playground. But pretty much that's basically what they do all day. They play in the playground, or they on the back way just shooting basketball all day. And that's the most fun they do over here. That's what keeps them active. You know, other than I had the game room set up inside the community center, you know, just to kind of pretty much get them up by off the streets, give them something to do after school. And it's been fun, they love the game room, which is supposed to open back up sometime next week for them. But I want to make sure that I have a steady crew in here to help run the game room so that the kids will know that the equipment that's bought for them, is for them to take care of it, you know, so my goal was to just have a meeting with youth, and sit down and talk to them and explain the life about caring for things that's brought for them so that they'll know when they do come in here, they'll know that we got to take care of this, because it's gotta last a long time for us and it gives us something to do and get off the street. And not only do we have the game room, we got the movie night for the kids, and also for our seniors and youth and adults. So, it will be nights for seniors, and it'll be nights for the youth. So we do movie nights as well. So we got a lot of different things going on throughout our community center that keeps our kids pretty much active.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1749.0,1875.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: (laughter) Tell me a little bit about the community now, as you see it, what are some of the challenges, or some of the some of the great things like because it's it has evolved and changed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1875.0,1888.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Some of the challenges is pretty much getting our residents to come out. You know, they so immune to just being inside. And I goes door to door to let them know that it is good to get out. Come to meetings, so that you can learn the new things that's going on around you. So that's that's some of the challenges, getting them out to the meetings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1888.0,1917.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Why do you think folks don't come out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1917.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: because they don't think that nothing is changing, when it is changing, but the only way you will know that it's changing, you would have to come out to see that there are things changing throughout your community. So I've had a lot of them come out, you know, versus meetings that we used to have here, where you had about five or six people sitting in here, which would be the same people, I've had 60 to 70 people to come out to the meetings. So it's been doing pretty good. Because in these meetings, not only do I have the residents to come out, I have CHA to come out so that they can explain to the residents about the different changes and the different things that's going on and so that they can also hear some of the residents concerns that they have with their units and the work that's not getting done by management, you know, by the different managements that they choose to be property management over our developments. But overall, I've had McCormick Baron, whom I've been working with very closely, and we've been getting a lot of progress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1920.0,1998.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: That's great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1998.0,1999.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Because I stay on top of ‘em. I. don't. play. when it comes to this community. I live here. And you know, when it comes down to my seniors, my youth, anybody that's over here, I'm gonna fight for ‘em, to make sure that they're living comfortably. You know, it's a time where as, you have to stop mistreating people and start treating them the way you would want to be treated. You know, we can't keep looking at the market rate and saying that they are more important than the people that lives in public housing. They are not, we're all equal. We're all important when it comes down to your health and how you live and that's just how I feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=1999.0,2058.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: What hopes do you have for the community moving forward?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2058.0,2066.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Um, you know, just hoping that everybody understands that I'm here for them and that they got a great leader who cares about them and that they come out and start voicing their concerns about this redevelopment that's gonna take place throughout their communities and making sure that housing come back to them the way that it should, you know, including storefronts on Roosevelt, you know, businesses everything, you know, just getting out, being a part of it, showing that they all do care.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2066.0,2110.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: You know talked a little bit before to Blanche about the tenant patrol that came out. Were you ever in the tenant patrol?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2110.0,2119.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: You know, I wasn't a part of the tenant patrol but I did receive an award for tenant patrol because I would always walk the development and clean it because that's just, it's just me. I like to see where I live clean. So I would get out, pick up paper, we would pass out flyers, I would go door to door, I would come to management, see if there was anything that they need done. And it would be me and a couple of my neighbors, we would get out, we'll go door to door, pass out flyers, we get out sweep the yards, pick up trash, you know, all around the area, whatever. But right now, tenant patrol needs progress. It can do - it could be better. You know, because you have a lot of people that's just on tenant patrol, they just on it, but they're not showing any support. You know, they're not getting out like they should, as people who are a part of tenant patrol,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2119.0,2184.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: What's the role of tenant patrol, as you see it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2184.0,2187.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: As I see it, the only role for tenant patrol is for them to pass out flyers and they're supposed to go around and look at the light fixtures to see if any lights are out, check on the seniors and stuff like that. So that's the role of the tenant patrol.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2187.0,2206.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: And was that always the role like when it was - do you remember when it came?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2206.0,2210.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Well when I first heard about tenant patrol, I thought it was a part of cleaning up and making sure your areas clean where you do your tenant patrolling, you know, and come in and get flyers pass out flyers, if the LAC flyers passed out, that’s part of their role. they supposed to be able to come in and get flyers pass them out. But it's like a lot of people that's on tenant patrol, they're all up in age. And, you know, they up in age where some might can move around, and some can't move around but I just feel they need to let some of the young step in that want to be a part of the tenant patrol, that's gonna get out here and move around and check on different things, make sure nothing is happening. Like if something is taking place, like you might see something happening on 13th Street, you do tenant patrol, you write it down, you give it to management, you let them know, look, this took place on 13th Street, maybe y’all want to do something about it. But you know, people are not willing to do that right now. Because they fear for their own life. So I just figured that was some of the things that were part of Tenant patrol.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2210.0,2297.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: is to - any - correct me if I'm wrong - is if they see anything out of order, to report it? And why do you feel that people are afraid?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2297.0,2309.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Well, you got so much going on around here and nobody wants to go through the process of telling all people and then you look up, they looking at you because they know you the person that's sitting on tenant patrol and you in there, in the office all day, going back telling people business. So they just feel like they not gonna be snitching on nobody as they call it. And that's basically that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2309.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: And do you feel like there's a - there could be a purpose, if younger folks, were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2340.0,2348.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: not. I mean, it's, I will say, I'm not more so gonna say younger people but I would say it should be a certain age out here walking around, versus our seniors. You know what I'm saying? You know, you have our seniors that's in their 70s that's on tenant patrol. They can't really move around like the young people can. Young adults can really move around. So far as why checking on seniors and making sure they're okay. They're not in their houses. And, you know, they will respond. they they can respond to if something's wrong with them. Like you can go knock on a door and you don't get an answer like we did the other day. We knocked on a door and we kept knocking and they was like, “oh, she's in there. She's in there.” I'm like, okay. If she's in here, she's not answering. So you got the front door, you got the screen door lock, you got the back screen door locks. So we know that somebody's got to be in here, because the screen doors are locked. So it was such a long time. And I'm like, okay, look, just break the screen door. We'll repair it. Because we need to get in here and see if this lady is okay. And it was a senior and she she was pretty much she, they wind up calling her phone and she was just like, well, “I'm okay I just was, I couldn't hear because the air conditioner was running.” And we don't know that though. You might have been in there, you could have been laid out, anything could have been wrong. And I just feel that tenant patrollers need to do more checkups on our seniors. Because you got a lot of seniors around here that's not able to move around. And that are in wheelchairs, or, you know, just on oxygen, you just want to, it's like it should be a thorough checkup, like right now with the weather being like in the 90s. Somebody should be out there doing senior checks, senior visits, making sure they okay. But I don't think nobody really does that. Not even management. That's just how I feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2348.0,2493.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Do you recall when you were growing up? Because Blanche was telling me a little bit about her - She got a candy shop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2493.0,2500.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2500.0,2501.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: When you were growing up, or even current, do you know of any, like local, home entrepreneurs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2501.0,2506.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: My grandmother sold Icee cups. She sold Icee cups. She's sold candy. She just had a little candy store where she sold Icee cups. And everybody knew her by the Icee cups because they were so good. She will freeze them in the cup overnight, and you'll go and then they'll be halfway slushy and they was just fye. So in the process, I wind up selling food. So I started selling nachos, tacos, italian beefs, just some of everything I had all kind of food and that was my little business for a little while. And then when I became president, I had to slow it down, you know, everybody, oh, when you're going to start out when you open, you store back up? I'm like, it'll be awhile. So it's a lot of people around here that really has they own, you know, little, little little food business or whatever they sell, you know, they, they sell they lil food and people buy it, and it's always been that way. We’ve always had candy houses all love to here where you just go and get whatever kind of candy you want, versus going all the way out south or to a candy factory to get certain kinds of candy. So you always have people selling candy and stuff throughout the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2506.0,2594.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: So how do you why do you think these these kinds of houses of food and- why do they come -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2594.0,2601.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Just to have them some extra money in their pocket. You know, and just to have some income period! you know, just people struggling in these days, you know, you just you needed some type of funding to help you get by. You know, everybody got tired of waiting on a once a month check or some food stamps. You know, that was a way of having extra money in a pocket.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2601.0,2627.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: When you were growing up. What kind of houses did you go to and start to - what kind of houses existed in your community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2627.0,2634.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: Well we had our three flat walkups, which was the Jane Addams. And then you have the rowhouses which has always been here. And then you had the seven stories. But in that time, we were all considered a whole before they divided everybody because the LAC would oversee Roosevelt Square, Brooks and Loomis Court until they, you know, started dividing by - just separating everybody and it became a mixed development and Loomis court became, which has always been mixed, but we've always helped them out. So now it's like Loomis court really don't get all the entities that public housing residents get because they're under state. So it's like, well, how do you help them? I mean, the state is not doing anything. You know, they got kids living over there, they kids want to go to camp. You know, I feel like they should be able to receive vouchers as well too! You know, my thing is CHA owns the property. So what makes them different from us? When you guys are the owners of the property, you know, so it's just a big difference. And we really want to make a change in how they're being treated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2634.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: So I was when you were growing up in ABLA, what kind of - were there candy houses? you said your grandmother sold Icee cups? But what other services existed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2730.0,2743.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: You had a lot of candy houses and ABLA. I mean, Taylor Street, you could go on Taylor Street to different candy houses back on Taylor Street, you had a lot of different candy houses to go to. We had choke houses. I don't know if y'all remember those back in the days, Choke: Free Lunch Program. We call them the Choke houses. And you can go on and you can eat, didn't matter what age it was, you can go on and get free lunch. Now it's like, you barely can go into a free lunch program. Because it's like, only a certain age can come in. Back then we didn't care who we gave the food too long as somebody ate. It was free lunch. The kids can come in and enjoy. But now it's like, Oh, they got these stipulations, these rules, restrictions. It's like you barely see anybody in them. So it's like they got food in there. And nobody's really eating the food. So yeah, a lot of changes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2743.0,2815.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: As you know, the museum is going to open in the fall of 2018. And I just wanted to get some of your thoughts and reflections about what you hoped the museum can bring to the community and what you're hoping the museum? What do you want from the museum?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2815.0,2833.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: I just really want the museum to really bring back the memories that came out of ABLA as a whole. You know, I don't want them to forget that the Daveera Beverly sat in this seat, and she fought hard for this museum to be over there, whether she smoked her cigarettes all day long. That was Daveera Beverly, you know, and she fought hard, you know, for this to happen. And she fought for this development to just even still be here. You know, we all have our ups and downs on how people were in their times. But I can't judge someone on how they were because I wasn't there when they were doing their fighting. I only came in after she passed away but in the process, I did know who she was and I was in her office, not just to be in there to be in there, I was in there because I wanted to learn how ABLA goes and how things are ran under the LAC and her goal was to teach me before she passed away. So in the process of her teaching me she didn't live to finish it off. But I still stuck around and went to different meetings to learn on my own how things run with the CAC and the LAC.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2833.0,2934.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: And what do you um, How do you want Miss Beverly to be remembered?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2934.0,2941.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: As a legacy. The lady did a lot. You know, I mean, I just don't want her to be forgotten. I want her to be in that museum where as people know, she stood for ABLA and the things that she did for ABLA. I mean, she did a lot. You know, she created The Fun Day. She did a whole lot of different things. You know and here we are next year to be 40 years for the ABLA Fun Day. And it's in honor of Deveera Beverly. And that's just how we see it. You know, without her there would have been no Fun Day. Without her holding down the fort and fighting as hard as she fought. There will still be no ABLA community. So I just want her to be remembered by the great things that she did for this community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=2941.0,3002.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Right on. That’s great. Before we wrap up, do you have any questions, or any thoughts or reflections that you want people to know about who you are, about ABLA because, you know, and I'm always interested in knowing how people want to be represented, right. And there's so many so much misrepresentation -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3002.0,3021.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: I just want, I just want to be represented, I just want to be recognized as a person who loves her community, and will go down in history, fighting for her community as a whole. And that's just basically it, that's just me, I'm gonna be out here. You know, I don't want nobody to get it mixed up as if they think, Oh, she's young, she's this, she's that, she's ain’t gonna do this, oh i’m I'm gonna do whatever I have to do to make sure this community is treated equally and that we get things back that we deserve in ABLA, from houses, to being able to go into anything that they build over here without having any problems. So that's just my fight I'll be putting on out here in this community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3021.0,3085.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: When you were growing up, did you ever have any conflicts with the neighbors that people that lived outside of ABLA?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3085.0,3094.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: We've always had conflicts outside the community, you know, where, you know, if you can't, you know, you always gonna have somebody somewhere fighting about something. But I've never had to go outside the community to fight with anybody or I just never had really had any problems growing up, because I didn't put myself out there to have problems. You know, I've always tried to get along with everybody and that's just how I see me, a person who loves to get along with people, and not have to fight about different things, we should be able to come to a table and come to an agreement without fighting all the time. Yeah, you're gonna have some sometimes when you people don't agree, and you disagree, you agree. But at the end, we can come together as a whole and say, we all agree upon this. You know, and that's just how I want it to be, Period, throughout my term of sitting in this seat. You know, we gone have a fight on our hands and I just want people to be able to stand behind anything that we're doing that's right. I'm never gonna stand behind someone when they're trying to fight for something that's not right. But when you fight for what's right, you got Miss Baggett. I just can't interact with negativity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3094.0,3190.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: I appreciate that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3190.0,3191.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: (off last statement) I can’t do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3191.0,3192.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: Well, I don't have any other questions. Do you have any other thoughts or reflections?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3192.0,3200.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: No, not at this time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3200.0,3202.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: On the community, your memories?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3202.0,3207.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: No, I just miss the courtyards (laughter. We don't have them no more. So you know, they're all gone. But hey, we know what the memories was like being over in those courtyards. We did a lot. We had the tunnels where you can go through the tunnels and you go play, boys chasing the girls, we miss all that lil fun. It was fun. It was back in the days, you know, you had the fire hydrants, when you turn a fire hydrants on and the water shoot up sky high and everybody was able to get under ‘em and just to get wet. It's a lot of fun out here. You know, we're gonna miss all that. We still do it from time to times. If the weather get too hot, we will turn a fire hydrant on over here on the block, and just let it go. And the kids be out there, they just be having a great time and you know, and it'd be fun. And a lot of residents up through here in Brooks, they they they throw little events where they let all the kids come and they have little birthday parties where all the kids can enjoy theyself. They leave nobody out. So it's been fun. We've had a great run through here and we gone continue to have one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3207.0,3283.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: What's one thing before we end, what's one thing that you want that is maybe like a misconception that people have about ABLA or people who live in come from public housing that you want people to know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3283.0,3302.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MB: That when we all decide to come together as a whole, we will come together and we be strong. We fight as a whole. Even the old people come back and they fight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3302.0,3319.0"},{"id":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324/transcript/67755/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SA: That's awesome. All right. Well, thank you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2733/collection_resources/129420/file/242324#t=3319.0,3323.72463"}]}]}]}